16 Replies Latest reply: Aug 2, 2014 9:35 AM by Michael Frias RSS

Online Graduate Degrees

Frederick Berry

MSOE plans to have three 100% online graduate degrees by the Fall of 2014. These degrees are,

 

M.S. in Engineering (MSE)

M.S. In Engineering Management (MSEM)

MBA in Organization

 

Thoughts?

 

Fred Berry

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    Tracy Miller

    I have a Masters in Education from the University of Illinois that I earned completely online.  I'm now work at NIU in faculty development and instructional design as an online teaching coordinator.  I also know Blackboard very well. Let me know if you are looking for parent committee member on the subject. 

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    Sharyn Warren

    I am a strong supporter of on-line learning at the graduate and post-graduate level.  It clearly opens doors for those who wish to advance their education but, for various reasons, are unable to attend the traditional brick and morter classroom.  This is a great "leap" forward for MSOE and I am glad to be a part of this history making educational opportuity.

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    Brandon Troc

    Online degrees are a wonderful resource for individuals working full-time, especially if they are also supporting a family.  This type of educational opportunity has seemingly unlimited potential.  Unfortunately, there is still a majority of the "hiring" people who see online degrees as "hoaky" or a "sham".  How is MSOE (or other institutions) working to break down this stigma?

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    Josh Luther

    I also look at the online degree from the perspective that it is a M.S. Degree rather than a B.S. The B.S. proves the individual can learn and if it is taken in classrooms, it proves the individual can learn from a human and at MSOE, using equipment. The M.S. is above that level, and online will demonstrate that the individual can successfully use a computer, which sadly is something that is a bit too rare.

     

    As for employer views, I have never cared about where anyone goes. The important factor is how the individual markets their experience. 

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      Tracy Miller

      I do agree that an online master's is more likely to be successful, from the stand point of the working adult audience and the maturity-level of being more self -organized.  However, you may find it interesting to know that there is a group called the International Association for K-12 Online Learning. It sets standards and policy for the 100s of online K-12 schools (public and private) across the country.  Along with many resources, professional development and research in online learning, pre-higher ed.  My point being potential MSOE undergraduate students may already be very savvy in using a computer and how to expect a quality online teaching and learning experience. 

       

      http://www.inacol.org/

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        Josh Luther

        Well my perspective comes from proving that both can be done. The Masters program shouldn't require in-person training, so I see no difference in an online or a traditional degree (except a better cost/benefit ratio to the online degree)

        Regardless, an employee that demonstrates effective learning skills when they worked with a computer as well as with a professor ranks higher than one who has not demonstrated both.

        I've trained employees that are somewhat illiterate, as well as very computer/game savvy. Learning and teaching with/without a computer are both important skills. Furthermore, the ability to conduct an effective training video, or an effective webinar is a skill that is hard to find. (it relates to my point, trust me)

         

        However, I have run into more adults who need assistance using computers than I care to count. The ability for an early to mid-career adult to prove that they have successfully learned complex information from a computer demonstrates that they have an ability to work with computers above that of their/our peers. It also gives them/us insight as to how to effectively convey complex information when we can't be present in person (like when we video chat someone through a problem across the country or around the world).

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    Chaitanya Kulkarni

    This is a great step ahead by MSOE and I believe it would have a great response.

    Can the current graduate students opt for any of these courses?

    Would the online course fees be any different than the on campus graduate fees?

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    paulinepontius broad

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      Tracy Miller

      I do think that employers care if a program is accredited.  I agree they may not check.  But I have actually had the experience where a employee I hired, graduated from a foreign school with a Bachelor's.  In a subsequent audit, HR found out that the college did not have the same requirements as the U.S. and he was really considered unqualified for the position.  Luckily he also had experience and was working out just fine so he remained employed.  However, he was considered unpromote-able until he got a "real" degree.  The quickest and easiest way for an employer to verify is to check if the program /college is accredited. 

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    Zach Rupcic

    Excellent news and I hope there are plans to expand the offerings in the future, such as the MS in New Product Management or Marketing/Supply Chain.  One of the biggest challenges though is how you will mitigate the loss of interaction between working professionals whom share personal experiences and stories relative to the classes.  Despite discussion boards, there's no substitution for the dynamic conversations that take place in person.

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      Tracy Miller

      Actually people that like to write rather than speak prefer discussion boards.  Sometimes the quietest student "in" class is the loudest on a discussion board.  Interaction must be designed into an online course rather than an after thought.  Also, picture yourself in a bricks and mortar class with a bunch of lively (dynamic) small group discussions going on.  The faculty is making there way around the room, providing feedback/input, but they can't get to everyone all at once. With an online discussion it is all captured, faculty can "see" what is going on in each and every group all the time (social cognition.)  Other students can "see" what is going on in the other groups (outside of their own).  They can process it all at their pace, and refer back to it again and again.  Faculty can provide guidance with misconceptions, add resources to the discussion forum, and even assess higher order thinking skills such as synthesizing and analyzing.  You are right, there is no substitution, it's better in some cases.    

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    Kristen Osinski

    Excellent!  Please add MSMI to that list!

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    Harry Attah Poku

    I am Harry Attah Poku from Ghana. I graduated from Kwame Nkrumah University of Science and Technology. I have a degree in Bsc Electrical/ Electronic Engineering. And I am now preparing my GRE test to come to MSOE. I am in Wisconsin-Markesan now. MSOE is very good engineering school and hope to join the online.

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    Michael Frias

    I have applied to MSOE for the 2014 Fall semester and am looking forward to getting my MBA from such a great institution! #MSOE #MBA #Online